Agenda and draft minutes

Licensing Sub-Committee - Wednesday 17th July, 2024 10.00 am

Venue: Lea Room, Wallfields, Hertford. View directions

Contact: Peter Mannings  Tel: (01279) 502174 Email:  peter.mannings@eastherts.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

8.

Appointment of Chairman

Minutes:

It was proposed by Councillor Townsend and seconded by Councillor Dunlop that Councillor Connolly be appointed Chair for the meeting. After being put to the meeting, and a vote taken, the motion was declared CARRIED.

 

RESOLVED – that Councillor Connolly be appointed Chair for the meeting.

9.

Apologies

To receive apologies for absence.

Minutes:

There were no apologies.

10.

Chair's Announcements

Minutes:

The Chair welcomed all to the meeting.

11.

Declarations of Interest

To receive any Members’ Declarations of Interest.

Minutes:

There were no declarations of interest.

12.

Summary of Procedure pdf icon PDF 99 KB

A summary of the procedure to be followed during consideration of item 6 is attached.

Minutes:

The Chairman drew the hearing’s attention to the Summary of Procedure which was included in the main agenda pack at pages 6 – 12.

13.

Consideration of five Temporary Event Notices given for the Dog and Whistle Festival, Hillside Farm, Pepper Hill, Great Amwell, Hertfordshire (24/0978/TEN, 24/0979/TEN, 24/0980/TEN, 24/0981/TEN and 24/0982/TEN) pdf icon PDF 165 KB

Five Temporary Event Notices (TENs) have been given by Mr Ricky Harding, the premises user, to allow licensable activity for the Dog and Whistle Festival. Objections have been received from both Hertfordshire Constabulary and Environmental Health in their role as statutory consultees. Where objections are received against a TEN, and not withdrawn, there must be a Licensing Sub-Committee meeting to decide on the licensing activities covered by that TEN. This report is to inform the decision of the Licensing Sub-Committee.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Service Manager (Licensing and Enforcement) presented his report and summarised how the five Temporary Event Notices (TENs) all requested the same activities and hours for the Dog and Whistle Festival which was due to take place over the Saturday and Sunday of the forthcoming weekend. He confirmed that each of the TENs areas sought licensable activity for up 499 people (to include staff and performers).  

The Service Manager (Licensing and Enforcement) said that only the Police and Environmental Health are required to be consulted for a TENS, and that on this occasion both Responsible Authorities had objected to all 5 of the notices, which could be found at Appendixes G and H of the report.

The Service Manager (Licensing and Enforcement) said that it was within the Sub-Committee’s power to allow the licensable activities to take place, or attach conditions to the TENs from the existing premises licence, but that these should be necessary and proportionate. He said that given the proximity of the event, consideration should be given as to whether the premises user could comply with such conditions. 

The Service Manager (Licensing and Enforcement) said that as no bespoke conditions for the event could be attached to any of the TENs, and as the wording on the premises licence was unable to be changed, Members should consider if they were suitable for the event. He said that should Members not be satisfied that the Premises User could comply with the conditions which the responsible authorities were seeking to attach, then the TENs should be refused. 

The Service Manager (Licensing and Enforcement) said that any steps which the Premises User described would not be binding and would be unable to be conditioned unless they matched the conditions from the premises licence. He said that should Members not believe that the Premises User could operate within these given limits, then the TENs should not be allowed to go ahead.

The Service Manager (Licensing and Enforcement) said that Members must believe that the TENs can go ahead and uphold, rather that undermine, the four Licensing Objectives. He reminded Members that they should reach a decision regarding each induvial TEN, giving reasons for each decision. 

The Service Manager (Licensing and Enforcement) answered questions from the Sub-Committee. There were no questions from the Premises User or the Responsible Authorities.

The Premises User gave his submission and answered questions from the Sub-Committee and the Responsible Authorities.

The Responsible Authorities gave their submissions and answered questions from the Sub-Committee, there were no questions from the Premises User.

The Sub-Committee (and Responsible Authorities) were then provided with an updated Site plan from the Premises User. This plan differed from the illustration seen at Appendix F of the agenda and included the walkways which Premises User intended to use to enable and control access between the five TENs areas.

The Premises User then answered subsequent questions form the Sub-Committee and the Responsible Authorities.

In line with procedure, at the conclusion of closing statements, the Sub-Committee retired  ...  view the full minutes text for item 13.

14.

Urgent Business

To consider such other business as, in the opinion of the Chairman of the meeting, is of sufficient urgency to warrant consideration and is not likely to involve the disclosure of exempt information.

Minutes:

There were no urgent items.